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26th May 2004 at 05:04 #38236mohsinGuest
Appreciate if somebody can brief explain, how MSU(in octet) is counted in MTP3,ISUP,MAP,BSSAP, and CAP.
Mohsin26th May 2004 at 08:17 #38237HariGuest
MSU is a signaling unit which will have the following format.
Flag: 8 bits
SIF: (Signaling Info: MTP3 sent buffer)3 x 8 to 272 x 8 bits
SIO: 8 bits
LI: (Length Indicator) 6 bits
FIB:(Forward Indicator Bit)1 bit
FSN:(Forward Sequence Number) 7 bits
BIB:(Backward Indicator Bit) 1 bit
BSN:7 (Back-ward sequence number) bits
And this will be with MTP-2, only the SIF ( Signaling Information ) field is used by MTP-3. I mean the MTP-3 message embedded as SIF.
And MTP-3 is take care of distributing to respective application ( ISUP, SCCP etc).
Hope the above said was helpfull.
-Hari26th May 2004 at 16:18 #38238Vijay SharmaGuest
In ANSI standard only one flag( at starting of MSU) is used and in European standard (ITU T) two flags ( at both ends) used.
Regards27th May 2004 at 02:16 #38239MohsinGuest
Thank you very much for the helpfull information.
If we sum all the indacator (flag to flag) and take as the maximum SIF can carried 272*8=2176, it will get 2232 bits and divide by 8 = 279 bytes.
For the application layer such a MAP, which will carried by SIF. Can we assume it was carried with the same load which is 2176/8=272 bytes??? or any reference i/we can used??28th May 2004 at 09:27 #38240S.VijayGuest
Not alwyas C7-MAP Carrys 272 Octets.
See the Range SIF = 3*8 TO 272*8 Bits.The SIF Octets value differes between different MAP/INAP Messages.
You have calculate the average if you want to.
Rgds29th May 2004 at 04:17 #38241MohsinGuest
So, how can compute the average of the octets.. any formula? some said.. i had to count from the message sending, for example for the message between VLR and HLR(to calculate the signalling bit and number of signalling between both NE). Start from UDT begin till end. Fuh!!! it can be blur at the end…:)
Mohsin29th May 2004 at 18:08 #38242S.VijayGuest
There are lot of other Methodes.
First Decide which things you want to calculate.
ISUP-Just Need to Count OCTETS For a Call.At paek time take 10 Successful + 10 Unsuccessful Call and Count OCTETS and get average.
MAP-SMS,LU,MSRN…There are Lot…Better analyze Avge of all.
This is what I do…but not a perfect methode…still in search for a BEtter methode.
PALs help us out.
I have total BITs sent in one Hour how can I calculate Load.I know the basic Calculation but…I wnat to know is it ok…?
Rgds30th May 2004 at 09:48 #38243Vijay sharmaGuest
Dear s.Vijay & Mohsin,
To calculate the signalling load between two Point codes u need to know
1) Total number of MSUs in an hour
2) Total number of Octets in SIF in an hour
3) Now each MSU = 8 + SIF Octets
using 1 , 2 & 3 u can find total number of Octets in an hour.
Now the signalling Traffic on a 64 kbps slot = (Total Number of Octets) * 8/64000/3600
Now u use above formula for both Tx and Rx direction and Maximum of this will give u effective traffic on this link in Erlangs.
Vijay Sharma31st May 2004 at 22:01 #38244S.VijayGuest
Hello Vijay SHarma & Hari ,
I feel theTotal Bits Transfered =[( MSU*6 Octets ) + ( SIFSIO Octets ) ]
6 Octets in MSU used for MTP (BSN,FSN…) Puropse.Not 8 Octets.
Rgds1st June 2004 at 18:13 #38245Vijay SharmaGuest
2 Flags = 2 Octets
CRC = 2 Octets
SIO = 1 Octet
LI = 1 Octet
FSN+FIB = 1 Octet
BSN+BIB = 1 Octet
Total = 8 Octet
I think it will clear ur doubt.
Regards,4th May 2010 at 09:55 #38246bkroutGuest
when SIOs, SIFs messages geting exchanged, I have tried to made the MTP3 link down and after some times made it up, but i could not get the SIOs and SIFs messages, Please any one can help me why i am not getting this 2 messages.7th March 2012 at 10:22 #38247Rajdeep DeGuest
Please let me know how many MSU we can get in HLR at the time of freash LU hapenning in VLR. Please let me know also the calculation for the MSU for LU message.3rd April 2014 at 03:49 #38248JosephGuest
When I monitor the linkset and find that amount of MSU in outing/incoming is same but the number of octet is differ. Should each MSU contain same no of octet (incoming and outing message)? Why have such different?24th July 2015 at 14:44 #38249RamaGuest
How we can reduce MSU count24th July 2015 at 15:26 #38250Wallis DudhnathGuest
MSU uses principles from HDLC.
Layer 3 frames are conveyed by the MSU. Layer 2 uses FISU and LSSU.
You will need start / stop flags (8 bits), BIB, FSN, FIB, LI, CK, SIO and the key SIF “envelope”
Depending on the messages the SIF size can vary. The SIF is also related to call control,
network management, or databases query/response. SIF varies from 16 to 2176 bits.
Spent a few years with a K1198 decoding and testing SS7 (in partucular, NUP / BTNR_167)
CO / NCR signalling systems.