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  • #49919 Reply
    ami
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    Hi all,
    pls any one can give me some solution of my problem?
    I am working on Nokia BTS,facing a problem of HO failur beetwen inter BSC.BSC1 is in nokia BSC and BSC2 has been swapped from seimence to nokia,now all HO attempt from some sites of BSC1 are failling with only 5 sites of BCS2,whereas opposite direction HO is succesful.I can checked NCC,BCC,freq,CI and BSC in both BSC it is ok. I am not getting where is the problem.
    pls help.

    #49920 Reply
    pix
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    hello ami,

    the problem might be in the NSS : check the definition of the BSC’s and the LAC’s are well done in the MSC.

    I’m not expert in NSS, but i noticed that most of these HO interBSC problems are due to wronf settings in NSS.

    Regards,
    Pix

    #49921 Reply
    Abdel
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    Hi Ami,

    This is an inter BSC handover, This kind of handover is controlled by the MSC you have to check your parameters or configuration at the MSC side.

    Abdel

    #49922 Reply
    ami
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    hi pix & abdel,

    thanks a lot for give your sugestion quickly.
    I will check as you suggest,but I thik if there is a problem from MSC end or wrong BSC definition then all handover will fail between inter BSC.
    in my case only 5 to 6 site of BSC2 are creating 100% handover fail.

    so pls suggest if there is any other problem.

    #49923 Reply
    pix
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    how many cells are having interBSC HO between these two BSC’s ? More than 6, or only 6 ? It’s not very clear.

    However, you can have a misconfig only for a certain LAC, or only for certain cells.

    #49924 Reply
    ami
    Guest

    dear pix,

    there are 23 cell having inter bsc HO b/w these two bsc,and only with 6 cells HO failure is 100%.

    #49925 Reply
    pix
    Guest

    ami,

    ok, you need to investigate further.

    1. drive test : are there HO COMMAND sent to the MS when going from BSC1 to BSC2 ?

    2. QoS counters or Abis+A interface traces (on both BSC’s) : can you plot the inter-BSC message flow and point out which message is “failing” ?
    For instance : does the BSC1 send a HO REQUIRED to the MSC ? Does the MSC sends a HO REQUEST to BSC 2 ?
    If you find which message i missing, then you know which equipment is not doing its job properly. Then you know where to check the configuration 🙂

    interBSC message flow (p.37) :
    http://www.swen.uwaterloo.ca/~knaik/750/gsm+dca.pdf

    #49926 Reply
    Abdel
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    Hi Ami,

    Do you have a test mobile like the Sagem OT260? I think it has the capability of forced handover.If you can find it try the following:
    1)Prepare SS7 signalling(BSSAP and MAP) at both the BSCs and the MSC.
    2)Go to one of the cells with the 100% HO failure.
    3)Try to make a call and then apply the forced handover to one of the cells on the other BSC.
    4) If the handover is unsuccessful then go back and see your traces, then you may see the error. If you are unfamiliar with the ss7 messages MAP and BSSAP messages, you can make a handover in a normal cell then record the messages in line. Compare the messages of the faulty cells with the normal and see the difference. Some GSM vendors they decode the messages and it is very easy to understand but I don’t know about Nokia because I don’t have experience on it.

    Abdel

    #49927 Reply
    pix
    Guest

    Air & A interface are 3GPP standards, only the Abis is not 100% standard.

    #49928 Reply
    TNS
    Guest

    Hi, ami.

    Did you resolve your problem?
    If yes, what was the problem in fact?
    If no – ask someone to check the DPC definition of the cells ( from the swapped BSC ) in the NSS data base.
    Wrong DPC for the target cell means 100% unsuccess rate when you try to perform an external BSC HO.

    BR,

    TNS

    #49929 Reply
    pix
    Guest

    what’s DPC ?

    #49930 Reply
    Frood
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    DPC= Destination Point Code

    #49931 Reply
    pix
    Guest

    thanks frood

    #49932 Reply
    ami
    Guest

    hi all thanks for your advice,I have check DCP(actually DCP is in siemens system in nokia it is SCP-signaling code point).it is ok,now we have rehome that site into BSC1 and the problem of 100%failure is solved,but there is still aprox. 50% failure.

    #49933 Reply
    Abdel
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    Hi Ami

    Did you checked whether you have configured external cells for the adjacent cells of the two BSCs? If not then you have to configure these external cells at both the Nokia and Siemens BSC.

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