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  • #51401 Reply
    Fahim
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    Hello,

    It would very helpful if anyone can tell me the correlation between PDCH in air and GCH in Pb interface ? and depending on that how to dimension a Pb interface ?

    #51402 Reply
    Pig
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    Not Pb, but Gb interface
    One PDCH can carry a certain useful throughput, which can vary from 6kb/s up to 60kb/s.

    One GCH on the Gb interface can carry only 16kb/s !

    Therefore, One PDCH will need more than one GCH if the PDCH throughput is above 16kb/s (or a bit less than 16kbps actually, due to signalling).

    For instance, at 60kb/s (59.2kb/s, more exactly), one PDCH will need 4.5 GCH.

    Regards,
    Pix

    #51403 Reply
    Pan
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    Not GCH, but Frame Relay packets:)
    The structure of Gb-interface is another than Abis. There is Frame Relay Protocol stack on it. It is a packet switching technology. The Gb-interface is realized by PCM lines. The Gb-interface phisical layer is called Frame Relay Link (FRL). FRL is a nx64 kbit/s phisical channels, created oher a PCM-line. Each FRL carries the packet switched data traffic of a specific number of cells.

    #51404 Reply
    Pix
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    but the frame relay occurs at layer 1.. GCH is at layer 3. A PDCH is also at layer 3, and is “attached” to n GCH. What happens in the lower layers is transparent (well, not you, definitely 😀 )

    #51405 Reply
    Pix
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    Sorry Pan, i got mixed up… GCH are on the Ater PS interface.

    Fahim, the GCH is not on Gb !

    On Gb interface, you can find L3-BSSGP frames. But there is no static allocation of Gb interface timeslots to the PDCH, it’s all dynamic, and based on Frame Relay (thx Pan !).

    #51406 Reply
    Fahim
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    Hello guys,

    I need to make somethings more clear… if we are using two E1 lines for Pb of a certain BSC and only one E1 line for Gb — how will that help me or what could be the possible reason behind that ? will the speed decrease or increase for a subscriber ?

    #51407 Reply
    pix
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    fahim,

    have you read anything we said below ?
    so, you need to tell us what is PB.

    #51408 Reply
    jenny
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    Pb is the interface between BSC and PCU. They have this in Huawei network since BSC is separated from PCU.

    #51409 Reply
    kamal
    Guest

    Pb interface?
    IS it really standardized?

    If it is,then no of Pb can be equal as Gb..!

    #51410 Reply
    safar
    Guest

    hi pix &pan,

    What is the difference between frame relay and gb over ip for gprs?

    And as per trailing messege what will be exact structure of gb ?is it gch or frl?

    Plz help frnds.

    #51411 Reply
    pix
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    safar,

    Gb interface can use FR or IP transport mode, but the protocol is still the same :
    TS 48.018 BSS – SGSN interface ; BSS GPRS protocol (aka “BSSGP”)

    In other words, the “BSSGP” messages sent between PCU and SGSN are the same, they are just “transported” differently.

    With IP, what you get is a BSSGP message within an IP packet.
    With FR, the BSSGP message is transported within a frame relay PDU.

    #51412 Reply
    SAFAR
    Guest

    Hi pix,

    thanks and can u explain abt gch and if i have to monitor sgsn capacity as per gch then how to check ?

    #51413 Reply
    Pix
    Guest

    GCH is a nibble located on Ater PS and Abis interface, that carries RLC-MAC blocks.
    They don’t belong to Gb interfac, they are not related to SGSN.

    The GCH is basically a logical link between the PCU (MFS in alcatel) and the BTS.

    pix

    #51414 Reply
    Ds
    Guest

    Hi Pix,

    is GCH related to Abis E1/ EDAP.
    or is some huawei/ALU specific term.

    #51415 Reply
    pix
    Guest

    I believe GCH is a vendor specific term, but it is probably used widely among several vendors. It means GPRS CHannel so Iwouldn’t be surprised if *all* vendors are using this acronym to describe the ressources to carry rlcmac blocks from PCU to BTS.

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