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  • #50224 Reply
    Lycan
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    hi all! what is an extended cellsite? many thanks

    #50225 Reply
    Abdel
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    Extended cellsite is a site which has a coverage of 121 km of coverage. Because it is using double timeslot to increase the Timing Advance to 219 bits. While normal site have a maximum of 64 bits. Every bit stands for 0.55 km. Mostly, to implement this kind of site you have to get license from the vendor.

    Abdel

    #50226 Reply
    Abdel
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    But remember coverage is effected by the terrain or the eviroment if the area around the side is hilly it will not go beyond that hills. To achieve this coverage you need a flat land just like the sea.

    Abdel

    #50227 Reply
    Klumzy
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    Abdel,

    What do you mean by double timeslot?
    Do you mean that an extended cell having for example 2 TRXs 1 BCCH and 1 SDCCH/8 can serve only 7 users (each user occupying 2 TS)?

    #50228 Reply
    pix
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    two consecutive timeslots serve one TCH only. So in your example :
    TRX 1 = 6 radio TS = 3 TCH
    TRX 2 = 8 radio TS = 4 TCH

    But this is a extended cell as implemented by ericsson or huawei. For alcatel, for example, the extended cell uses a different solution. The max range = 64km only, but 1 radio TS = 1 TCH.

    Regards,
    Pix

    #50229 Reply
    Abdel
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    Hi pix, it seems you have a great experience in different vendors and the way they implement their different technologies and applications. I think you have also great experience on Huawei do you? Me I work on BSC6000 the latest BSC from Huawei.

    Abdel

    #50230 Reply
    pix
    Guest

    hi abdel,

    i have good experience with alcatel only, but i’m keeping myself informed about other vendors as well 🙂 competition intelligence, if you see what i mean…

    the only things i know about huawei is that most of their BSS soft/hard comes from Ericsson (copycat ?), they are cheap, system works OK (can you confirm ?) but they lack good project management… maybe you can share your huawei’s experience ? (i’m guessing you’re working at the operator’s side, so you can be quite objective)

    regards,
    pix

    #50231 Reply
    paraHO
    Guest

    Have you used Repeaters (GSM1126) in order to re-transmitter to increase coverage km in hilly areas?

    #50232 Reply
    Lycan
    Guest

    how can i optimize an extended cell?.. my prob is HO incoming to this cell…thank you all!

    #50233 Reply
    Abdel
    Guest

    Hi Lycan,

    What kind of HO problem are you experiencing? is it 100% HO failure. Please give us more details about your problem.
    Yes ParaOH, I forgot about the Repeaters, they are usefull in the hilly areas where the signal is unreachable or poor.

    Abdel

    #50234 Reply
    Lycan
    Guest

    Hi! yes we are having 100% incoming failures to this sector4. this cell is used to cover a far away area..must be VIP. any parameters i should modify to atleast reduce the HO incoming failures?.. its killing the KPI. thanks much!

    #50235 Reply
    Abdel
    Guest

    Hi Lycan,

    This might be a configuration error or problem, have you checked whether the target cell have adjacent relationship or not? also try to use BSSAP trace it may help you to indentify the problem also.

    Abdel

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