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  • 19th December 2007 at 17:33 #50093
    flavio
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    does anybody knows if this formulae is correct? It concerns Ericsson equipment/counters.
    [RA Failure] = RAACCFA/(CNROCNT+RAACCFA)
    If so, what are the reasons that can lead a n/w to present bad performance, about 18-20% of failure rate?
    It is present of Ericsson and Siemens nets.

    19th December 2007 at 17:46 #50094
    flavio
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    additionally, does it imply on any kind of bad end-user perception? which ones?

    19th December 2007 at 20:44 #50095
    pix
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    flavio,

    can you write down the counters definitions (trigger messages ?)

    7th January 2008 at 10:37 #50096
    flavio
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    sorry but i don´t have anything but the formulae. i´ll try to find related document from the vendor.

    9th January 2008 at 06:17 #50097
    Water
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    Hey guys!
    The counters definitions are as follows:
    RAACCFA:- this is incremented every time there is a failure in random access

    CNROCNT:- this counter is incremented for all random access attemtps, failed or successful.

    We have the same problem, there are some of our cells that register as low as 20% of random access success.

    9th January 2008 at 09:50 #50098
    rala
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    Dear all,

    How to see the random access fail in Alcatel network?

    Thank you in acvance. 🙂

    9th January 2008 at 13:21 #50099
    pix
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    random access fail is counted as a SDCCH ASSIGNMENT UNSUCCESS (sdnaur)

    in alcatel, the unsuccess varies between 5% and 20% in terrestrial-ABIS BTS, and it is about 50% for satellite ABIS BTS. Those are normal values.

    Regards,
    pix

    10th January 2008 at 03:13 #50100
    rala
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    Dear Pix,

    a SDCCH ASSIGNMENT UNSUCCESS(sdnaur)is the counter or indicator in Alcatel?
    I cannot search from the Alcatel customer doc.

    or is it the formular?

    Regards,

    10th January 2008 at 10:03 #50101
    pix
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    Rala,
    open RNO, go to QOS INDICATORS, in the family SDCCH ASSIGN, subfamily UNSUCCESS CAUSES. You will find it here.

    It is an indicator.

    The SDNAUR is the correct name :
    SDCCH_assign_unsuccess_rate ( SDNAUR )
    formula :
    ( ( [MC04] + ( [MC148 – MC01 – MC02 – MC149] + [MC149])) / [MC04 + MC148])

    10th January 2008 at 10:34 #50102
    rala
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    Oh, I see..
    It’s the SDCCH access failures, right?

    Regards,

    10th January 2008 at 11:01 #50103
    pix
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    hooo, that’s a rookie mistake :

    failure = radio failures + BSS failures
    unsuccess = congestion rejects + radio failures + BSS failures

    10th January 2008 at 13:19 #50104
    flavio
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    5-20% are normal values for GSM, or it is vendor related? I checked Nokia performance and it is lower than 1%.

    10th January 2008 at 17:14 #50105
    pix
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    flavio,

    it has nothing to do with the equipment performances. it has only to do with “how is computed this indicator ?”
    Alcatel is taking into account ghost RACH, while I assume Nokia isn’t.

    Using the same QOS counters, the values should be quite close.

    Regards,
    Pix

    7th October 2009 at 05:20 #50106
    Prakash
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    Can any one give the formula for Access failure rate (CDMA)formula for Lucent and ZTE.

    22nd June 2010 at 03:11 #50107
    vinod
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    what is the reasons for RACH FAILURE in gsm

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