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CAMEL Phase-1,2,3,4 – ?????

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  • #49420
    Ashok
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    Can somebody just give a summary of the features supported by CAMEL Ph-1, 2 ,3 & 4 . Like CAMEL-2 would of course cover features fo CAMEL -1 + additional features. I Need to know the original features as in CAMEL -1 & then the additional features as offered in CAMEL-2, 3 & 4 .

    It would be a great help

    #49421
    Mucky
    Guest

    Dear Ashok,

    Camel Phase 2 Feature,
    o Online Charging Control
    o Notifications
    o Call Control
    o Conditional Triggering
    o USSD

    That’s I know…maybe somebody else could help?

    #49422
    atif
    Guest

    hi can you tell me the purpose of camel 3 and 4

    #49423
    Abhishek Chauhan
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    The CAMEL Phase 3 & 4 have certain features, which were not available in CAP 1 & 2. The CAP 3 includes all featues of CAP1 and CAP2 plus additional features for Data charging. Other than this, there are certain other messages also, which were added in CAP 3, which could be useful from the services point of view.
    CAP 4 includes some additional features like MT SMS triggereing. The main feature of CAP 4 is ICA (Initiate CAll Attempt), which was not there in old releases.
    Through this feature, the SCF can initiate the dialougue on it’s own, without any triggering from the SSF.

    #49424
    Wallis Dudhnath
    Guest

    CAMEL – Customised Application Enhanced Logic – has
    an association with IN – Intelligent Networks.

    As IN Services expanded with GSM there was an issue with Roaming.
    The use-cases were not standardised and this meant IN Services in the
    HPLMN could not be used in the VPLMN. The answer was to use the existing IN
    protocols: CS-1 (or variants) and to update it so that HPLMN can be used in the
    VLPMN. This led to CAMEL which is basically a Network feature based on CAP V2 (or later versions)
    and MAP V3 (or 4, etc..). CAMEL also helps with interoperability. CSPs can interwork gsmSSF, gsmSCF,
    gprsSSF, gsmSRF, IP, etc.. from different vendors. Traditional “lock-in” from IN systems is now
    removed.

    At the time of writing CAP V2 is well proven for Roaming PrePaid Voice (telephony) calls.
    Data Traffic is now charged using Diameter (DCCA).

    CAMEL as a standard that is no longer evolving. The last set of standards was done with
    CAMEL Phase4 via 3GPP.

    Summary:-

    CAP V1: Proof of concept. Several messages were supported
    CAP V2: Similar message set that INAP / CS-2 supports. Geared up for Mobility and allows calls to be “teared down” based
    on rules set with the PrePaid application
    CAP V3: MO-SMS and Volume Based GPRS Charging
    CAP V4: Call Party Handling (add / remove callers – move_Legs)
    Network-initiated call establishment (InitiateCallAttempt), Interaction with basic optimal routing, Alerting detection point
    Mid-call detection point, Change of position detection point, Flexible warning tone and Tone injection and
    Enhancement to call forwarding notification

    With the rapid growth of the Internet, Web2.0/3.0, SIP, Diameter, etc.. it has reduced the role of CAMEL Phase 4 as a
    Multimedia Standard for VHE / OSA (Virtual Home Environment).

    #49425
    Prashant M Hullatti
    Guest

    Good

    #49426
    Wallis Dudhnath
    Guest

    Thanks Prashant,
    Please let me know if you need any further inputs for IN / CAMEL.

    VBR/ Wallis Dudhnath

    #49427
    Antoine Egho
    Guest

    what is the use of CAPv3 for Data Charging when VPLMN SGSN will always contact HPLMN GGSN, which nowadays are connected to OCS thru Gy?

    #49428
    Wallis Dudhnath
    Guest

    CAMEL Standards (Phase 1-4) were standardised well before Diameter (DCCA), Gy, Gx, Sy, Policy (PCRF), etc..

    For online charging the basic functionality as now defined by IETF Diameter Credit Control Application (DCCA) is used. The basic structure follows a mechanism where the online client (CTF) requests resource allocation and reports credit control information to 3GPP OCS (Online Charging System).

    CAP V3 can be used for MO-SMS Charging (CAP V4 supports MT-SMS).

    VBR/ Wallis Dudhnath

    #49429
    ASHEESH SHARMA
    Guest

    PLESE UPDATE THE MOPRE INFORMATION ABOUT THE CAP 4.

    #49430
    Wallis Dudhnath
    Guest

    Look at the following book from Wiley:

    CAMEL: Intelligent Networks for the GSM, GPRS and UMTS Network.

    It provides a very good overview of CAMEL – from Phase1 to Phase4.

    CAMEL Phase4.0 was standardised so that it can work with IMS. Last major standardisation work that was done with CAMEL was during the early 2000s.

    VBR/ Wallis Dudhnath

    #49431
    Wallis Dudhnath
    Guest

    CAMEL Phase 4 Summary:-

    – Interactions with Optimal Routing;
    – Call Party Handling;
    – DTMF Mid call procedure for Mobile Originated and Mobile Terminating calls;
    – Inclusion of flexible tone injection;
    – Provision of location information of called subscriber;
    – Provide location information during ongoing call;
    – CAMEL control over MT SMS;
    – Notification of GPRS mobility management to CSE;
    – Inclusion of ODB data in Any Time Modification;
    – Enhancement of Any Time Interrogation and Provide Subscriber Information for PS Domain;
    – Mobile Number Portability database interrogation;
    – Criteria for the provision of location information during ongoing call;
    – Enhanced Dialled Services;
    – Enhancement to Establish Temporary Connection;
    – CAMEL control of trunk originated calls.

    #49432
    Nidhin Kaladharan
    Guest

    Can Real-Time Display Balance be achieved by CAP 4 capability?

    #49433
    Wallis Dudhnath
    Guest

    Hi Nidhin,

    Not many Markets have deployed CAMEL Phase 4.0. CAP V4 is the last major work that has been done with the CAMEL standard. You can link CAMEL with AOC type Services. For Realtime Display of Balance (before, during and after a session) it is better to use Diameter. It is geared up for MSCC bundles.
    For Media/VoLTE/ViLTE/etc.., SIP/Diameter is now the way forward.

    VBR/ Wallis Dudhnath

    #72031
    Manu
    Guest

    Dear,

    Can you confirm that the ICA can be use to knows the availability of one destination without alert on it (No ringing)?

    Thanks by advance

    Emmanuel

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