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  • #42180 Reply
    jood
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    Hi there
    What is the benefit of using COMMON BCCH in (900+1800) GSM…. Is it just for increasing capacity by 3Ts unequipped on 1800 system, or there is another benefit of this feature (reduce signaling load????).
    Please articulate it, if possible.
    th in advance.

    #42181 Reply
    Rajan
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    The benefit is for the customer that he has buy lesser number of frequencies. Also the capacity of the area wrt TRX increases.

    Signalling load is also one of the reasons.

    Regards,

    Rajan

    #42182 Reply
    Boko
    Guest

    Also It is good for the reduced number of neighbours, all in one band (900)

    Regards
    Boko

    #42183 Reply
    M.Thyagarajan
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    but the offset for handover between layers(900/1800) has to be set carefully of this may leed to congestion on one layer while the other layer is under utilized

    #42184 Reply
    Boko
    Guest

    …Which is very useful if the congested layer is the inner one.
    I think the most difficult thing is the handover margins from inner area to a neighbouring cell. You can easy go into a Ping Pong Handover. Cell_1 1800->neighbour cell_2->Cell_1 900->Cell_1 1800…..

    #42185 Reply
    more
    Guest

    Hi all
    Because BCCH is one on sector, & as i know there is no HO without measurement on neighbourBCCH…..so from inner to outer how MS measure neighbour(for RXQU & RXLEV) .
    thus maight there is no need for HO to move on whole cell( reduce signaling on SDCCH, also BCCH,SACCH & PCH)
    is it right….
    regards

    #42186 Reply
    M.Thyagarajan
    Guest

    there is always the intra handover.

    #42187 Reply
    Boko
    Guest

    You can go directly from the inner zone (1800) to whatever neighbouring cell (900/1800) – at least for Siemens. The reverse is not true – you always do HO from neighbour to outer zone (900) and immediately to inner (1800). Also for siemens there is no offset for inner complete (only the difference in Pmax – 3dB) and HO margin is one and the same for both zones (HOmargin effective is with 3dB difference). O-ooo I almost forgot no prevention of back HO due to reason “Better cell”.

    #42188 Reply
    monem
    Guest

    HI guyes
    Regarding all this clarification:
    1) is there any difference at intra HO performance between non syncronised 900/1800 & syncronised 900/1800.
    2) In case of syncronised 900/1800, what the effect of implementing COMMON BCCH on intra HO.
    3) the effect of syncronised 900/1800 on the radio network feature (FH, DTX, Allocating, assignment, cell reselection(idle mode),… etc
    4) is there any SDCCH signaling on 1800 band in case of COMMON BCCH.
    # sorry for my too much interrogation, but realy I need some one to clarify it, or provide me by some related DOCUMENT.
    monem14@gmail.com
    thanks

    #42189 Reply
    Boko
    Guest

    For siemens for sure there is a difference for intercell. Intracell what do you mean?

    1) For colocated cells (synchronized) you can go for one inner zone of cell_1 directly to the inner zone of cell_2
    4) No signaling or data chennels in the inner zone.
    and neighbourcell list is reduced

    rgds

    #42190 Reply
    pary
    Guest

    we use congestion relief HO on outer zone with distribution algorithm according to adjusted Idle TCH rate on outer, to move the call to inner.
    to do HO inner>> outer the PBGT HO (LOL) must be controled with its offset.

    #42191 Reply
    jood
    Guest

    HI all again
    Kindly I need out light on (power budget hand over algorithm).and how it implicates the rxlev & qulev. And how differ in performance from (minimum performance algorithm) which is used to give precedence to power control over handover.
    Which is better….????
    Thanks in advance.

    #42192 Reply
    sankoosi
    Guest

    Hi jood
    # minimum performance algorithm: simple & (precedence for P Control over HO) BUT creates smeared cell boundaries when MS with high TX power goes distance byond its orignal border into another cell, so it produce high interference.
    # Power budget algorithm: complicated algorithm (precedence for HO over power control),so it uses HO to maintain a certain level of Quality. so avoid the smeared cell and reduces co-channel interference.

    #42193 Reply
    goast
    Guest

    is it true, the main need for COMMON-BCCH is the increasing of trunking-gain.

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